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Yes, I *loved* Les's example. For those that weren't there, Les dropped a pencil on the floor and said to the class: "Try to pick this up." So someone picked it up. "No, no," said Les. "I didn't say *pick* it up. I said *try* to pick it up." We all spent a few minutes thinking about what he was saying. In short, you either pick the pencil up, or you don't. Or as Yoda says; Do, or do not. There is no "try". -Russ H.
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"Control everything. Own nothing." -John D. Rockefeller "Don't confuse motion with action" -Ernest Hemingway Last edited by Russ H; Dec 4th, 2007 at 07:37 PM. |
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#62 (permalink) |
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Level: (3) Lamborghini
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I think the word "trying" generally means "I'll stick with it until it gets hard or I lose interest". Either something is a priority or it isn't.
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#63 (permalink) |
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Level: (7) Lexus
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Are we looking at all spending or at how we piddel our money away? Cause if we are looking at all spending, I just sent in my last tax return with my last tax payment. I know it should have been paid already but my estimate was off a little. So anyway are we talking bills & overhead or just frills?
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#64 (permalink) |
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Level: (9) Cadillac
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I had a major expenditure error last month. (forgot to enter a large expenditure, knew about it, but completely forgot to enter it and I reley on what my numbers tell me). Set me back about 15 days. Thank God for good friends (Yves) to help out during quick needs. Caught up, paid back and am on track with expected and planned expeditures.
STILL, have not closed on the new house. All in good time.Realized that I don't like planned expenditures (for new home setup, can you say major doodads) and am looking forward to bringing them to an end soon. I'd much rather use those funds towards investments that can bring in more passive income which could be used to pay for the doodads! That way, it ensures that I don't HAVE to continue working instead of feeling like right NOW I have to work. Looking forward to the next lesson. ![]() |
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Wow, what a great post
I now have to track my expenses and I am not looking forward to that. okay CORE VALUES (what is important to me) -God -Love -Health -Family -Being financially secure -Learning new things -Respecting others Things I like to be around -Nature -Family -Horses -Children -Positive people -Church -Friends - Things I like to do (activities): -Fishing -Cycling -Reading -Surf the web -Travel -Listen to music -Eat great food -Watch movies -Exercise |
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Level: (9) Cadillac
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Since all you guys are having so much fun I can't get left behind
![]() CORE VALUES (In no particular order) - Happiness - Freedom - Adventure - Friendship - Fitness - Relationship with Self - Relationship with Spouse - Being in Control - Taking Action - Accomplishment THINGS I LIKE TO BE AROUND - Spouse - Family & Friends - Successful, Positive,Driven and Motivated people - Entertainment - clubs, bars, nightlife, Vegas - Luxury - Bookstores - Nature - Gym THINGS I LIKE TO DO - Sports( various) - Reading ( investment, financial, motivational, self help, psychology) - Studying investments - Thinking - Visualizing success - Hiking - Running - Chess - Watch Movies - Going to Vegas - Eating - Socializing ( friends, parties etc) - Lying by the Pool - Traveling - Listening to Music |
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Every single penny. Here's the hardest part: Try to spend normally, as you would before you started writing everything down. How this part can get screwed up: When keeping a journal, the very fact that you're writing things down causes you to change your behavior. Try NOT to let this happen. If you normally go for a Latte at Starbucks, keep doing this. If you buy a diet Pepsi at Taco Bell on the way home, keep doing this. Just get in the habit of recording it somehow. Ways to do this: -ONLY use your ATM card, whenever possible (most fast food places around here take them, as well as VISA cards) or . . . -Make sure you have a written cash receipt for EVERYTHING, but just put the rects in a paper bag in your car, office, etc. You can do this for the entire month, and then add everything up. While this last approach will require you to total all the receipts up at the end of the month, it does provide you with the ability to "stay unconscious" with your spending. In other words, most of us spend money without really thinking about it. If you can continue to do this throughout the month (spending, but keeping receipts or using your card for everything), you will have a more accurate picture of your spending habits than if you consciously *think* about things before you buy them. Post back here on your progress-- what is happening? Are you able to stay unconscious, or is the very act of writing things down affecting your spending decisions? Remember-- no wrong answers here. Only enlightenment. ![]() -Russ H. PS We're only doing this for a month, so no need to freak out about how much time this takes. The effort you spend doing this for one month will, over the course of your lifetime, pay you back a thousand times. Or in my case, it's paid back well over a 10,000x what it was worth.
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Level: (9) Cadillac
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EXPENSES THIS WEEKEND
FRIDAY Lunch - $17 Ate Dinner at home. Had an early night. SATURDAY - Java Monster (after gym) $2.32 - Property taxes on investment property $329 ( new build hence the low annual taxes) - Protein shake for lunch at home. - Box of chocolate chip cookies $6.15 - Spent the evening at a social event. No cost. - Spent $2.15 at gas station for allergy medication - Late night stopover at Arbys 5 for 5 special $6.32 ![]() SUNDAY - Invited to friends house for lunch - no cost - Dinner at home - Spent most of the day reading + evaluating investment portfolio - no cost. MONDAY Ate all meals and snacks at home -$76 telephone bill Total: $438.94 minus property taxes one time yearly $329 minus monthly $76 telephone bill = $33.94 Hmmm not bad. But this was an exceptionally low budget weekend. No grocery shopping or dinners. |
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Level: (3) Lamborghini
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Man, my spending has changed Russ. I am trying to live normally, but I keep thinking what a pain it will be to write down a cup of coffee- so then I just pop into work say hi and grab a cup there! I think this will be a good exercise in the end. I will use my credit card for the rest of the 30 days (since I started mid-month).
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Level: (4) Ferrari
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Yves,
I read somewhere else in here your husband just got back from deployment. Keeping spending low must be difficult at the moment. I have not met one single person that comes back from any deployment and does not have a hole in their pocket for the first couple weeks. Perhaps its easier for married folks, I dunno. After deployment spending is like an early Christmas for a local economy.
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Talk about financially unconcious, I never even looked at my checking account, my paycheck went in..I spent it. It didn't take long for me to piddle through my savings(from the sale of my home in 2003) at the rate I was spending. Fast forward...RE Taipan had me do what Russ is having people do...it woke me up. I cut my bills and spending until they were less than my income..I got rid of my BMW, pulled my kiddo out of private school, no more tanning, no more nails being done, no more starbucks, no more fast food, dumped the cable TV, and on and on. I realize now if I could work full-time again..and if I kept living like I am...just off my earned income I'd have 30-40k a year to invest or more depending on how much I worked. I was working 40 hours a month just to make my BMW payment...great SUV, loved it... but I might as well have flushed that money down the bowl. My life isn't any different without that truck..well except I have an extra grand a month in my pocket. I was spending $12,000 a year on a car payment(plus insurance & gas)..a car that took me from point A to point B. I had that truck 3 years..imagine if I had invested that money in an asset and not a liability? Hindsight is 20/20 but this exercise really highlights where your money goes and gives you the opportunity to ask yourself if it really goes where you want it too. I'm committed to keeping my spending in check even as my income is slowly going back up. I'm glad all of this happened to me, it gave me a perspective on money and spending that I don't think I would have understood otherwise. I'm looking forward to the next part of this very much. Sue |
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-Beingchewsie-
That's exactly what i'm looking forward to in what i'm doing now. Only I had to get rid is my house instead of a car. My mortgage is eating me alive and i tried to cut down on small stuff but it was the big stuff that i have to concentrate on. I do understand those little stuff became bigger stuff as well down the road. Looking forward in having less things to pay for and kill my credit cards with extra money i hope. ![]()
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Rep points for you. ![]() This is one of the big "AHAs" I had when I started keeping track of all my expenses. I was *floored* at how much I spent on meaningless little impulse items that came home w/me and were rarely used (to the tune of *thousands* of dollars a year). I'd buy them 'unconsciously', on impulse, b/c buying was fun-- and I enjoyed imagining myself using whatever it was. Lots of dreams. But I rarely used my dream buys. Now I use that money for investing. So I use my "dream money" to make my long-term, real life dreams possible. ![]() -Russ H.
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Level: (7) Lexus
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friday: lunch at home: $0
free car show $0 adult beverages at car show $30 dinner with friends, they paid total 30 Saturday: stayed home for lunch & dinner $0 Sunday: Church donation $120 Bar B que $15.00 Groceries $75.00 Newspaper $1.60 dinner @ home $0 Concert tickets $100.00 beverages @ concert $30.00 total 341.60 Monday mailed in final 06 tax return with $2900.00 lunch at home $0 RX $40 sundries $40 dinner at home $0 total $2940 Tuesday chinese food $15 total $15 Wensday lunch at home 0 dinner at home 0 thursday lunch at home 0 dinner at home 0 total 3326.60 without the tax bill = 426.60 we live on nothing! so I revise my estimated liquidity to 20 years ![]() the plumbing company pays for my car, his truck, our other truck, all our fuel, all our auto insurance, all our cell phone & all our health insurance. next week we are going on another car buying trip so the car company will pay for the transportation & lodging for this trip, may spend more money on personal when we travel, will have to see what we spend that is not spent by the company. |
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#78 (permalink) |
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Hey Janet,
How long do the $75 in groceries last you? And what do you *not* buy? Do you make decisions specifically what you don't buy, or do you just buy anything that suits your fancy? -Russ H.
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We buy what ever we want, it's just that this particular week we did not need to stock up on many things. We live in the country so I buy meat & things like that in bulk & freeze it. Also the $75 does not include sundries as you will see further down my list I spent another $40 on this stuff. One of the things about spending on little things is that when you live 15 miles from the nearest starbucks you aren't as likely to pop by everyday. Janet |
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Level: (13) Pontiac
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Ive already spent 67.81 in less then a week.. I only get paid about 220/per 2 weeks.
this is without car payments too. i made the mistake of having 30 dollars in cash, and it disappeared in like a day or two... not good.. |
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