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Lets see, you're rude to a respected member and you violated one of the forum rules via sending PM spam. Are you interested in staying here or getting tossed?
I did not realize that I was being rude. I just expressed my curiosity and from Diane's answer I don't get the feeling that she thought it was rude. If she did, of course I apologize to her.

I did violate the rules once (although not intentionally). I'm sorry and will not do that again. I hope that it will not be held against me forever.
 
 
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Go Diane!

I consider myself very fortunate that these forums rank so highly with you.

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I find the answers very insightful to this exercise. Without exception, everyone who has responded has said they would get their wealth back in a much shorter time period than it took the first time.

No one responded with a “I wish I could start over”. There are many people in that spot today – at less than zero. They owe more than they own (negative net worth) or just the thought of $5,000 to start something with is more than they can hope for.

So, my story:

I was on a panel when this question was asked and everyone tried to top the person before. I was last. That’s the hardest spot to be in when you’re doing that type of thing.

So, the challenge that I had quickly put in my mind (cause I wasn’t going to let these other guys come up with a plan better than mine) was that not only did I have to make the money back, but I had to do it WITHOUT the $5,000 and I had to live better than I did when it all happened. That was just because I wanted to set the bar higher for me than anyone else…sometimes that thinking gets me into trouble!

It was December 2003 and we were in Maui at the Maui Mastermind. Just before I’d gotten on the plane, I’d read an article that stated that there were 1,600 homes over the price of $1 million on the market in Phoenix. At that time, 400 homes over a million sold per year. So, based on those two figures, there were 4 years worth of supply on the market. My quick, off the cuff, answer was that I first needed to find a place to live. And since so many of the Paradise Valley homes (an area of Phoenix with homes starting the $1 mill range) for sale weren’t going to sell anytime soon, I figured there was an opportunity.

Without even thinking about how I would make money off the idea, I said that I would approach absentee home-owners (maybe through their real estate agents, didn’t have that part completely figured out) and offer to keep their homes in “show ready” condition. Houses that have to sit start to smell funky after awhile and houses that aren’t vignetted out have a much slower sales rate as well. So, I would arrange for top of the line furniture to be vignetted in the house, coordinate the housekeeping and landscaping staff and keep the house in “show ready” condition so that within 2 hours of any given time the house would be ready to be shown. The homeowner, of course, would be responsible for the furniture rental and labor costs, but my time would be absolutely free. Plus, I would be around to discourage burglaries or trespassers. I would do this all for no cost whatsoever to the homeowner.

Of course, I wasn’t really planning to do that, but it got me thinking – there are a lot of houses at the $1 mill+ level and people are going to start getting desperate. This thought process was all happening at the time that Richard and I were lamenting that our current plan of moving every two years (live in a house for 2 years, sell and take tax free gains) didn’t ever hit the maximum. We tended to live way below our means and at the $300K-$500K per house level, we usually made about $200K - $300K every two years. What would it take to make the maximum of $500K? We knew we had to go to a higher price house.

So with a slowed down market and the desire to maximize the tax free gain, we made the decision to go after that bigger ticket house.

We told our real estate agent that we wanted something in the $1 - $1.5 mill range and more than anything, it had to be a deal. She did an amazing job searching for us and came to us with an 8000 SF house right next to the exclusive Biltmore area with almost 2 acres. It was 15 minutes to downtown Phoenix or the airport, but had massive trees and an arroyo running right through the property. Actually, the arroyo ran right through the house. The house bridged the arroyo so that water flowed under part of the house (with plenty of windows and views of the dramatic water scenes.) There was a 3000 bottle wine cellar and a total of 3 kitchens. Really the house was something I’d never seen before in my life. But the problem was that a group of investors had bought it and then someone stole from someone (or at least was charged with that) and litigation held the property up for 3 years. Meanwhile, someone had the idea of turning the water off on the property, so there were dead and dying vegetation everywhere and the house was in disrepair. The title was finally clear, right when the market tanked.

We ended up getting an accepted offer at $1.1 million and then my husband started in on round 2 of negotiations, so that we actually got $30,000 back at close…from the sellers. The problem was closing the house. Every appraisal came in much higher than our purchase price and so no one wanted to finance it – they thought something must be wrong. In the end, we paid for 8 appraisals. The day we closed, the listing agent came to us and said he had a solid offer at $1.4 million. We turned it down, mainly because we were just so happy to finally have the property closed! Now, 3 years, 3 months after the purchase and $300,000 in improvements later, we have an appraisal at $3 million. (Gain of $1.6 mill) We’re considering doing a more major remodel that would cost about $500,000 but should bring us a quick sale of $4.2 - $4.5 million.

And what happened to the supply of $1 million+ houses in Phoenix? The market exploded within a year and for this higher end, it’s never slowed down. Houses are still selling in our area, most within 3 months, at listing price or close to it.
 
 
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Diane, thank you.
Very good story, which helps triggering creativity in finding ways to get into the fastlane.

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What if you lost everything you had right now - all your money, your businesses, your real estate, everything..... You were left with $5,000 and the knowledge you have.
For me i think it'll be a great pleasure for me as i will start and begin learning with someone that already been to the fastlane. Instead of learning slow piece by piece most of the decisions i'll be making will be somewhat right than wrong.

It took awhile for everyone to learn as the process was little bit different than how it is now with your knowledge. Its like your learning very slow thats why it took more than 5 years to build but only took 3yrs to rebuild back because you already have the risk mind etc...out of the way and its not stopping you anymore.

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I guess I would have to quote Henry Ford here

"I would have it all back in 3 years instead of the lifetime it took me the first time"

I have made all of the mistakes and I know how to build it faster and better now.

David
Whether you think you can or you think you can't your right - Henry Ford
 
 
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I'm doing a little different spin off of the $3K to $1 mill exercise Russ posted.

What if you lost everything you had right now - all your money, your businesses, your real estate, everything..... You were left with $5,000 and the knowledge you have.

How long would it take you to get back to where you are right now? And how would you do it?

I'll post my answer to this tomorrow. BTW, I was asked these exact same questions 4 years ago on stage. I was so shocked by my spur of the moment answer, that I did it. My husband and I made $1.7 million from putting that "ah-ha" in place.

So, how would you do it? How long would it take?
2-3 years at least.
 
 
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What would I do if I lost everything?

The same as I am doing now. :-) I might need to restructure things a little, but that's ok.
 
 
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Very interesting question, Diane!

Starting over from $5k, if I went back into overdrive mode working long hours as I did when first building my business I think that within 6-12 months I could have a solid comfortable cashflow going again. Within 3 years or so I could be back where I am today doing the same business I'm in now. I'll even go one further and say that within 5-6 years I could be where I am today financially doing something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than what I'm doing now.

The important difference now as compared to when I first started is that I have a good general knowledge of how business works, and more importantly, the belief that it works and that it is possible for me to put systems in place that generate cashflow. It's a lot easier to believe it can happen and work towards it after you've already seen it happen before. I feel that I could now put this knowledge and mindset to work to be successful at almost any type of business.
 
 
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John, if you don't mind sharing, what's your business?
 
 
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John, if you don't mind sharing, what's your business?
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Bumping up some classic Diane Kennedy posts today.

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what happened to her? Handn't seen her here in quite some time.

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what happened to her? Handn't seen her here in quite some time.
I think she stays pretty busy with her own website / blog.
 
 
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I'm sure of that ^^^^^^^^^^

Even so, she used to pop in here a good bit to comment on issues she had experience in. Must be reeeeealy busy lately

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I think Dianne has been busy keeping up with all of the new tax law changes for her clients. At least that's what she indicated in her last DKTS client email
 
 
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